I couldn't penetrate the chrome. Do you drill the 35mm cup holes before or after applying the finish? This […] by the older brother » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:12 pm, Post You really really really want to drill your new holes before you paint. Obviously, plugging them is a large labor requirement. by Jazzprod » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:17 pm, Post If you’re not sure about the color of Fil-Stik to use, we would recommend getting 2 or more color options to test. by the older brother » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:17 pm. I didn’t realize that when I was flying by the stick of my broom planned out my posts. by Stereordinary » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:46 pm, Post Additional tips for drilling your own cabinet hardware Always use a new, sharp drill bit and do not push hard when drilling your doors and drawer fronts. For concrete, I couldn't penetrate more than 3/4" into After wet sanding is done, I cleanup with naphtha and use a toothpick to again open up When i tried to drill holes in a chrome bumper, I used special metal cutting bits and cutting oil. Forum Responses Nail holes in exterior surfaces, just as with cracks or gaps, can be dealt with using a good caulking. by Jazzprod » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:54 pm, Post Holes If the shell needs any holes drilling (for mirrors, wings, antenna tube, etc), carefully drill those now, using a block of wood to support the body. I wasn't as impressed with the Salice soft close version, but I'm kind of finicky about how things work. So now I had to fill in the old cabinet holes and drill new ones to match the holes on the other doors. Use Naptha to wetsand, never water. He writes: In the past when I’ve built bookshelves and entertainment centers I drill all of the holes for the shelf pins before I assemble the whole piece. Holes in wood trim are best filled with wood filler. Wouldn't really matter before or after You fit stoplights.. It was totally worth the work. ......below the apes above the angels..... Masking tape on the work surface prevents flaking, spelching, etc leaving a clean hole. For that reason I bore after finishing. Sure you can use wood filler to fill the old holes and then drill new ones exactly where you want them. Let’s just take a look at the after before the tutorial… because we can… I remember the pros telling me on the reranch site to always test fit everything before painting. by sookwinder » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:09 pm, Post The pegboard and the wood backer protect the surface. Drilling Holes for Cabinet Pulls Now I just had to find the center on each drawer. This might be a speed and pressure problem. I lightly filled all my holes on my Jag on purpose before I refinished it. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Using a drill, sockets are made in the concrete where the posts can be securely cemented. The brand new one I located everything on the body and then used one of thise spring loaded punches that carpenters / metal workers use to mark a dent/very shallow hole where the screw holes will be. So I stick with the press-in. Forum Responses (Cabinetmaking Forum) From contributor M: After with a Blum Minipress. I drill first. I actually left the filler in the holes a little low so I could see where they are. Once you drill your first holes, then you can line up the template. Especially when dealing with vintage and antique furniture. I learned the hard way what not to do when painting doors and hardware. I figure that if I drill before paint, the paint will change the dimensions of the holes. by Franco » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:39 pm, Post If you don't have any scraps of pegboard, you can fashion a jig out of a piece of 1/2" or 1/4" plywood and drill a hole in it slightly larger than the hole required for the mounting screw. After my kitchen was featured in Better Homes & Gardens, there were a few new people who came over and asked how I covered the old hardware holes that were in the center of my cabinets. How to Fill Nail Holes in Trim. When it comes to painting before or after the installation, it’s really a chicken or the egg situation. The pegboard and the wood backer protect the surface. It also doesn't matter that much (with this setup) if you drill before or after finishing. Check your drill bit is'nt blunt as well. Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into? by painted wood » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:20 am, Post Use a larger drill bit to take off any burrs. Best to buy ready mixed and should cost you pennies EDIT Some fillers take only a short time to dry but would suggest at least 12 hours 24 better. Hardware holes and hole spacing isn’t always precise. Make sure your clean out bit is brand new! Use Naptha to wetsand, never water. Before I had the Minipress I bored before finish using a drill press. The majority of cabinet knobs are packaged with #8 machine screws, which measure 0.16 inch, or roughly 5/32 inch, in diameter. Doesn't make sense to me (and my operation) to put all the doors on the Minipress to bore, then finish, then back to the Minipress to press in hinges. Question Drawer and door pulls add a decorative value to your cabinetry and have a lot to do with the overall look of your room. I definitely would go after the paint -- but you have to be careful with that -- make sure you protect the finish on the other side of the guitar -- like, drill on a couple towels or something. Do you drill the 35mm cup holes before or after applying the finish? After experimenting with several different methods and products, this is how I currently fill old hardware holes for the best results: Fill all the old holes with wood filler, let dry and sand. Repeat the process of applying a second coating and sanding it after. If you want the most professional looking results, this is the method for you. However, after finishing the piece with polyurethane the holes get filled with finish and I end up re-drilling them all. Of course after the finish goes on I could see myself re-drilling the holes, because they tend to get all filled up by the sealer and filler. IMHO it will be cleaner if you drill the holes after paint. a good brad point bit should give a very clean hole. So I'm using them as reference points really. Even though my project was successful, several things went wrong. Drill Installation Method. Or Because wood filler can (and does) shrink as it dries, apply a second coat of wood filler, if … After the first coating of the joint compound has dried off, sand the holes using a 220-grit sandpaper. If you drill after, and the paint is cured. I drill holes before finishing and open them back up with toothpicks after spraying. Typically, I have always started with this process, then added ornamental carvings/burnings, then done my routering, and finally, my finishing stain/varnish. How to Make New Holes for Hardware With your old holes filled, now is a great time to drill new holes for the new hardware. Because I want the pulls centered in the drawers and the holes are 1/2″ lower than center, I made sure to mark “TOP” on each drawer as a future, quick look reference. Dust Collection, Safety and Plant Operation, Job Opportunities and Woodworking Services, A close vote, with comments, on when to bore doors for hinges. After with a Blum Minipress. The holes will be fine. Test Fil-Stik on inside of cabinet door. I have a small project during which I drill hundreds of little holes (the largest of which is 1/8 in.). Should I drill the holes for the floating shelves before assembly or after painting? Post I really liked using that style of hinge more than I thought I would - just so much easier to pop them in and out. I wet sand with mineral spirits so swelling is a non-issue. It's best to fill pround then sand down before papering , lining or painting. Before the deglosser evaporates, quickly wipe away the residue with another clean, deglosser-dampened rag. Take the time before you apply any paint on your next project to fill all of the gaps, cracks, and nail holes. Hold a rag underneath to catch drips. 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